so who else?

by ag » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:06 am

aside from korine, who is carrying the torch? are there any new filmmakers who are doing their own thing and letting the chips fall where they may? im so bored, who else is out there?

by **foot foot** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:22 am

Giuseppe Andrews...there are more...i just can't think of them.

by **Uter** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:06 pm

Lynne Ramsay, David Gordon Green, Lukas Moodysson.

Those are the ones I can think of. The Andersons, Todd Solondz, etc. are good too but they've been making movies longer than the ones I mentioned so I'm going for the really new crowd.

by **eric** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:13 pm

this is a good question, for sure, and in respone i say: pt anderson, david gordon green, lukas moodysson, todd solondz, and giueseppe andrews.

pta has been making films just as long as korine has so i consider him part of this new wave. solondz made his masterpiece not took long ago, in 1995.

i do not include wes merely cause he is not good enough. and neither are alexander payne and jim jarmusch.

by **Famous Mortimer** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:41 pm

The Dardenne Brothers, Leos Carax, Vincent Gallo, Claire Denis, Bahman Ghobadi, Abbas Kiarostami, Jafar Panahi, Guy Maddin, and Peter Sollett. Those are the others that come to mind as being truly different.

by **eric** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:58 pm

fuck yea....oh man, totally forgot carax. my bad, i should be shot. good good call mortimer.

also yes, kiarostami. tho i don't feel quite as bad for forgetting him.

i was thinkin claire denis as well, myself. i did not forget her, i just didn't list her cause she is a little older. but yes, for sure, she is one of the best working right now. on that basis, i guess you could still include herzog and godard too, which may or may not be inaccurate. it's just they are still making good films.

Website · by **Bastard Wisher** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:03 am

What about Gaspar Noe? I'd say he's probably my favorite out of all the new guys, including Harmony. Besides him, the guys i'm really into right now are Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu and David Gordon Green. Also Takashi Miike, Lukas Moodysson, Lynne Ramsay, and Bruno Dumont. I also really like Darren Aronofsky and Sophia Coppola, although i'll admit that they aren't quite as good as the others. Of course there's the guys who are a little older but still relevant, like Larry Clark, Gregg Araki, Todd Solondz, Lars Von Trier, the Andersons, Leos Carax, and Michael Haneke.

by **eric** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:55 am

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bastard Wisher)</div><div class='quotemain'>What about Gaspar Noe? I'd say he's probably my favorite out of all the new guys, including Harmony.</div>

yupp, totally forget him and trier for absolutely no reason at all....christ, for that i don't even have an excuse. good good call with those two.

by **dave quam** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:19 am

so is gallo done with movies or what?

lars is really on some next level shit. i think he just keeps getting better with age. dogville is probably my favorite of his.

by **Uter** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:28 pm

Von Trier is the man. However, his first film came out in 84. So I don't see how anyone can call him new. Not that it matters, I just didn't mention him because he's an old-timer.

by **Alaric731** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:00 pm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Uter)</div><div class='quotemain'>Von Trier is the man. However, his first film came out in 84. So I don't see how anyone can call him new. Not that it matters, I just didn't mention him because he's an old-timer.</div>

I remember an old interview with Harm where he was talking about how nuts he was and that he was kind of intimidated by him. anyhow i loved dogville and five obstructions ("Oh, this is just satanic" "Isn't it?")

by **Famous Mortimer** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:33 pm

Von Trier was making good shit up until Dancer in the Dark. That was his downfall. It wasn't terrible, it was actually quite brilliant at some parts, but overall it was just so misdirected. I haven't seen Dogville yet, though. But yeah, good or bad, he's still totally different.

by **Uter** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:46 pm

Dogville is sort of a masterpiece. I can't really say anything bad about it. When I was watching it I had issues with it but by the end it works itself out. It's pretty much flawless, I think. I didn't have a problem with the stage like some other people.

I really like Dancer in the Dark too. It takes some time to get past the manipulative aspects of it but I love it. It's hard to explain why I can excuse the manipulation in Dancer but hate it when other directors manipulate an audience. I guess I just feel like Von Trier is aware of his toying with the viewer, and he uses it to his advantage. Plus the whole fairy tale non-realism thing helps too.

All in all I'd say Breaking the Waves is his best. But Dancer and Dogville are up there. All his shit is good in one way or another.

by **Famous Mortimer** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:49 am

Oh, like I said, parts of Dancer were great. The juxtaposition between the silly American melodrama and cinema veritÃ© was brilliant. I just think when the trial began is when Von Trier sort of lost his message and the whole film became a bit heavy-handed. I wrote a whole critical analysis of the film for my advanced composition class. I'll post it if you're really interested (and if I can find it).

by **dave quam** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:25 am

i dont see how you could say dancer was his downfall when you havent seen dogville. not trying to be a dick or anything. you should see it. its better then dancer i think.

lars deffinitley counts as one of the newer guys id say.

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